Kyser Clark is a cybersecurity professional and creator of The Hacker’s Cache, where Clark discusses cybersecurity careers, certifications, hands-on skills, and lessons from Clark's own career.
Kyser Clark is most useful for cybersecurity career content about certifications, skills, pay, and burnout.
Best for
A cybersecurity company co-branding a podcast or LinkedIn series on career growth.
Not for
A product vendor wanting scripted short-form demos and guaranteed lead volume.
Key takeaways
Certifications helped Clark enter cybersecurity, but stacking more will not fix a career.
A pay raise can be right and still cost something.
At conferences, relationships outlast the talks.
Check first: Confirm sponsorship policy, rates, media kit, and inquiry route before contacting them.
Main ideas
Certifications open doors, but stacking more of them will not fix a career · A pay raise can be the right move and still cost something · At conferences, relationships outlast the talks
Kyser Clark is a cybersecurity professional and the creator of The Hacker’s Cache, a podcast about cybersecurity careers and the choices involved in building one.
They draw on their move from military service to civilian cybersecurity and bring guests with different routes into the field.
Clark’s career advice makes room for tradeoffs rather than treating credentials as a universal roadmap.
They credit certifications with helping them enter cybersecurity, while emphasizing hands-on experience, visible proof of skill and avoiding burnout.
That perspective carries into stories about choosing pay over stability and finding value in conference conversations, as well as an episode featuring a guest who built a cybersecurity career without a degree or OSCP.
Readers weighing different routes into the field will find practical questions to consider, not just a checklist of qualifications.
Kyser Clark's recurring argument is that cybersecurity careers are built on demonstrable hands-on skill, deliberate choices, and a sustainable pace—not on credentials, job titles, or conference schedules alone.
Read more
They point to their own decisions—leaving the military for higher pay, slowing a long run of certification-chasing, and skipping most talks at a second DEF CON—and explore the same themes with guests and listeners through The Hacker's Cache podcast.
Certifications open doors, but stacking more of them will not fix a career
Kyser Clark argues that certifications helped with a military-to-civilian transition and with becoming more capable at work.
Read more
But treating every spare hour as required career progress taught a different lesson: more credentials do not reliably produce higher pay, better opportunities, or a healthier career. Instead, the levers are role-specific hands-on experience, performing well in the current role, showing up rested, and avoiding the burnout that makes people resent the field they worked to enter.
In the post “More cybersecurity certifications won't fix your career,” Kyser Clark notes that the argument comes from someone who says they hold 19 certifications. The week's episode explores slowing down and what certifications can and cannot do for a career.
This is a slowdown, not a rejection.
The open-to-work post lists 19 active certifications, and a later episode mentions an updated cloud certification plan.
The message is to choose credentials deliberately and pair them with experience, not to stop studying.
A pay raise can be the right move and still cost something
Kyser Clark describes leaving the military for higher pay as financially sensible and career-opening, but says the stability, purpose, and sense of mission that came with uniformed service were harder to replace than expected.
Read more
Compensation and mission are separate variables in a career decision; advice should treat the tradeoff honestly instead of pushing everyone toward one side.
The episode “I Chose Higher Pay Over Stability. Here's What It Cost Me” pairs a personal tradeoff with practical questions: whether public-sector cybersecurity jobs are worth lower pay, how to tailor a LinkedIn job title ethically to work actually done, an updated cloud certification plan, and the penetration-testing path Kyser Clark would recommend to someone starting today.
Kyser Clark argues that the return on a major security conference comes mainly from people rather than sessions.
Read more
At a second DEF CON, they deliberately attended only two talks and spent the time networking, reconnecting with people they already knew, and following where conversations led.
They call those relationships the most valuable part of the event.
The practical follow-through covers whether the trip is worth the cost, how introverts can meet people, and what first-time attendees should expect.
The post “I barely went to any talks at DEF CON... Here's why” states the takeaway directly: the talks, villages, and technical content are good, but the relationships built there keep paying off long after the conference ends.
Kyser Clark uses a guest's example to argue that degrees and flagship certifications such as the OSCP are not the only credible routes into security work.
Read more
The discussion covers the job market, getting past HR screening, building proof of skill through projects, AI security, whether AI will replace cybersecurity roles, certifications, mentoring, and burnout. The conclusion: people need to keep learning and find a way to show what they can actually do.
The episode features returning guest Richie V.
(4NU81X), described as an associate security researcher who built a path without a degree or OSCP.
Richie V.'s route is the guest's own case, presented through Kyser Clark's interview; the “no single blueprint” framing is Clark's stated takeaway from the conversation.
Burnout is the failure mode to design a career against
Across the posts, burnout is treated as the predictable result of an unsustainable pace, not a personal weakness: constant studying, chasing the next credential, and never letting a spare hour pass without career output.
Read more
Kyser Clark raises it as something they learned the hard way and as a topic worth putting in front of guests and listeners, alongside mentoring and workload.
The certifications post describes years of studying and credential-chasing and names “the kind of burnout that makes you resent the field you worked so hard to enter” as the outcome to avoid. The guest episode with Richie V. also returns to burnout as a recurring pressure on people building security careers.
Explores whether stacking certifications is enough to advance a cybersecurity career, from someone who says they hold 19 certifications.
Read more
Newcomers can start here for Kyser Clark’s core career argument: credentials can help with entry and growth, but hands-on experience, performance in a current role, and avoiding burnout matter more.
Kyser Clark writes that certifications helped them move from the military into civilian cybersecurity and become more capable.
But after years of chasing credentials, they concluded that more certifications do not always mean more pay, better opportunities, or a healthier career.
The post names relevant hands-on experience, showing up rested, performing well in a current role, and avoiding burnout as bigger levers.
It frames an episode around slowing down and what certifications can and cannot do.
For brands planning a campaign
A co-branded series on certifications and career growth could open with a counterpoint: not “more certs,” but “which certs, plus what proof of skill.” It supports a campaign positioning training as one part of a career plan, alongside labs, role-specific experience, and a sustainable workload.
This post lays out what Kyser Clark says about their background and job preferences.
Read more
Newcomers can use it as a straightforward inventory of experience, education, certifications, community activity, and location or work constraints before deciding whether to follow the career content.
Kyser Clark says they are open to work and seeking a next role, citing over eight years of hands-on cybersecurity experience across offensive and defensive security, 19 active cybersecurity certifications, a B.S. and M.S. in Cybersecurity Management & Policy, and an MBA expected in December. The post also mentions top rankings on TryHackMe and Hack The Box, community activity through content and conferences, willingness to work in person, hybrid, or remotely in the Columbus, Ohio, area, and no willingness to relocate.
For brands planning a campaign
For a thought-leadership partnership, this résumé-style post offers a concrete list of credentials and platforms that could anchor an on-screen credibility card or episode guest introduction. A brand should request independent verification of the credentials before featuring them.
Explores the tradeoff between private-sector pay and public-sector stability.
Read more
Newcomers can see how Kyser Clark uses personal career decisions, not just advice, to frame episodes about pay, mission, and job-search tactics.
Kyser Clark describes leaving the military for higher pay.
The move made financial sense and opened doors, but stability, purpose, and a sense of mission were harder to replace than expected.
The post also lists adjacent episode topics: whether public-sector cybersecurity jobs are worth lower pay, how to tailor a LinkedIn job title ethically to the work actually done, an updated cloud certification plan, and a penetration-testing path for someone starting today.
For brands planning a campaign
This is a strong model for a co-branded episode or article that does not reduce career choices to salary. A cybersecurity employer could support a segment on total compensation, mission, and career path, using Kyser Clark’s military-to-civilian tradeoff as the personal thread and certification or pentest guidance as the practical follow-through.
Explores whether a major security conference is worth the cost if you are not sitting in talks all day.
Read more
Newcomers can start here for Kyser Clark’s conference strategy: networking, relationships, and practical value for first-time attendees.
After a second DEF CON, Kyser Clark writes that they deliberately skipped most talks and focused on networking, meeting people, reconnecting, and following conversations. The post says relationships were the most valuable part, explains why they attended only two talks, asks whether DEF CON is worth the cost, and offers guidance on meeting people as an introvert, what first-time attendees should expect, and how to get more value from cybersecurity conferences.
For brands planning a campaign
A community- or event-focused campaign could use this as a counterweight to booth-and-session marketing.
The angle: conferences pay off through relationships and follow-up, not only technical sessions.
A brand could build a co-branded guide for first-time attendees around Kyser Clark’s networking-first approach, with practical prompts for introverts and a checklist for turning conversations into long-term contacts.
Explores what a non-traditional cybersecurity path can look like.
Read more
Newcomers can start here to see Kyser Clark in conversation, using a guest example to challenge the idea that a degree or OSCP is the only route.
Kyser Clark introduces an episode with returning guest Richie V.
(4NU81X), an associate security researcher who built a path without a degree or OSCP.
The discussion covers the cybersecurity job market, getting past the HR firewall, building proof of skill through projects, AI security, whether AI will replace cybersecurity roles, certifications, mentoring, and burnout.
The takeaway: there is no single blueprint, but people need to keep learning and show what they can do.
For brands planning a campaign
For a co-branded content series, this post shows Kyser Clark carrying an interview format and a skills-over-credentials message. A vendor could sponsor an installment on demonstrable proof of skill—labs, projects, portfolios—paired with mentoring and burnout safeguards, rather than a simple certification pitch.
The Hacker's Cache as a recurring career-and-skills format5
Certifications are a starting point, not a career fix1
Pay versus stability in cybersecurity career moves1
Conference value through relationships, not packed talk schedules1
Non-degree and non-OSCP routes into cybersecurity1
Public career visibility and proof of work1
Certifications are a starting point, not a career fix
Kyser Clark says 19 certifications helped with their military-to-civilian cyber transition and made them more capable, but argues that more credentials do not automatically bring better pay, opportunities, or a healthier career.
Read more
They point to hands-on, role-specific experience, strong performance in a current role, rest, and avoiding burnout as stronger career levers. The episode also covers why someone with many certifications might slow down.
For brands planning a campaign
A certification provider, training platform, or cybersecurity employer could build a co-branded series on which certifications matter for specific roles, what to do after passing, and how to pair credentials with demonstrable hands-on skill. The series should avoid suggesting that more certifications alone solve career problems.
Pay versus stability in cybersecurity career moves
Kyser Clark describes leaving the military for higher pay, a move they say made financial and career sense.
Read more
But stability, purpose, and mission proved harder to replace than expected. The related podcast episode addresses public-sector pay versus private-sector stability, ethically tailoring a LinkedIn job title to reflect actual work, an updated cloud certification plan, and a penetration-testing path recommended for someone starting today.
For brands planning a campaign
A career services brand, cyber workforce program, or employer brand could support content that honestly compares tradeoffs and gives listeners concrete next steps. Its practical value lies in role-specific advice, not a blanket recommendation to chase pay or stability.
Conference value through relationships, not packed talk schedules
After a second DEF CON, Kyser Clark says the most valuable parts were networking, reconnecting with people, and seeing where conversations led, despite attending only two talks.
Read more
The episode covers whether DEF CON is worth the cost, why networking became the main reason to attend, how to meet people as an introvert, what first-time attendees should expect, and how to get more value from cybersecurity conferences. Their takeaway: technical content matters, but relationships keep paying off after the event.
For brands planning a campaign
An event organizer, community platform, or training brand could sponsor a practical guide or episode on conference return on investment, first-timer preparation, and introvert-friendly networking. The content can be useful without suggesting every session or social interaction is equally valuable.
A guest episode with associate security researcher Richie V. examines building a cybersecurity career without a degree or OSCP.
Read more
The discussion covers the job market, getting past an HR firewall, proving skill through projects, AI security, whether AI will replace cybersecurity roles, certifications, mentoring, and burnout. Its takeaway: there is no single blueprint, but people need to keep learning and show what they can actually do.
For brands planning a campaign
A hiring platform, bootcamp, security vendor, or workforce initiative could co-create content on project-based proof of skill, alternative hiring signals, and how AI is changing entry paths. The format also shows Kyser Clark can deliver a partner message through interviews, not just solo commentary.
In an open-to-work post, Kyser Clark presents eight-plus years of hands-on cybersecurity experience across offensive, defensive, and strategy work; 19 active certifications; a B.S. and M.S. in Cybersecurity Management and Policy; an MBA expected in December; top rankings in TryHackMe and Hack The Box; a YouTube channel described as hundreds of samples of work; and plans to attend BSides Columbus.
Read more
The post states availability for in-person or hybrid work in the Columbus, Ohio, area and remote work, with no relocation.
For brands planning a campaign
For a thought-leadership partnership, this shows Kyser Clark publicly documents credentials, rankings, community activity, and samples of work. The post also flags an active job search and location constraints; confirm availability and scope before committing to a long co-branded series.
The Hacker's Cache as a recurring career-and-skills format
The Hacker's Cache is the recurring vehicle across the posts, combining solo commentary on career choices and lessons with guest interviews and practical, list-style episode topics.
Read more
Themes include certifications, hands-on experience, job searching, pay and stability, conference networking, mentoring, burnout, AI security, and non-traditional paths into cybersecurity.
For brands planning a campaign
A brand can evaluate the show as a home for a co-branded series on certifications and career growth, blending Kyser Clark's experience, guest perspectives, and concrete steps for listeners. The strongest fit is practical career guidance tied to specific roles, skills, or hiring contexts, rather than broad motivational messaging.
The posts do not identify any sponsor, affiliate, client or disclosed partnership relationships: none carry a sponsorship disclosure, partner tag or paid-promotion note.
Read more
The one brand connection they establish is The Hacker’s Cache, the cybersecurity careers podcast Clark hosts and presents as their own. TryHackMe, Hack The Box, DEF CON and BSides Columbus appear only as training platforms, rankings or conferences Clark uses or attends; the posts state no commercial relationship.
The Hacker's Cache
Owned business
Kyser Clark’s cybersecurity careers podcast and YouTube channel are presented as their own show: they narrate episodes in the first person and direct readers to “my YouTube Channel” for samples of their work.
Read more
Episodes cover certifications, military-to-civilian career tradeoffs, conference strategy and guest interviews. Clark hosts and publishes the show; ask about its company structure, revenue model and any sponsorships.
Kyser Clark's posts map a cybersecurity career, starting with an argument about credentials: someone who says they hold 19 certifications explains why collecting more will not fix a career—and what will move it forward.
Read more
From there, the work splits in two.
The personal track covers leaving the military for higher pay and the cost of that tradeoff, why a second DEF CON was spent on relationships instead of talks, and burnout from treating every spare hour as required career progress.
The interview track runs through The Hacker's Cache podcast, whose guests include a security researcher who built a path without a degree or OSCP.
Episode links in the posts lead to the full conversations.
Threads across both include certifications versus hands-on proof of skill, pay versus stability, conference return on investment, mentoring, hiring signals, and AI's effect on entry paths.
Both use LinkedIn to teach cybersecurity careers rather than sell a service, and break the field into paths readers can act on.
Read more
Raymond Akpan's webinar write-up asks what skills employers actually want and distinguishes SOC and security operations, penetration testing, governance and compliance, and cloud security. Kyser Clark's posts distinguish certifications from hands-on experience and pay from stability; both address the same kind of entry-level question.
Raymond Akpan teaches through a community hub and a free live webinar for students, career switchers, recent graduates and IT professionals seeking a curriculum-style tour of the field. Kyser Clark's format is a podcast built mainly around their own career decisions and guest interviews, with little live-event or structured-course framing.
Both publish practical cybersecurity teaching on LinkedIn and turn security work into steps readers can follow.
Read more
Huzaifah S.'s posts explain how to test for broken object-level authorization and list free tools to start with; Kyser Clark's explain which credentials are worth the effort and what to do at a conference.
Huzaifah S. writes hands-on methodology and starter-tool lists for practitioners, such as mapping object types and testing privilege boundaries. Kyser Clark's posts centre on career strategy, credentials and personal decisions, while technical depth comes through guests rather than walkthroughs of their own testing.
Paola Masman teaches from first-hand operating experience in short first-person posts, using a business anniversary to explain why the agency exists and a manufacturing event to show why marketers need to understand the industries they serve. Kyser Clark uses a similar approach, turning a military exit or conference trip into a general lesson about careers.
Masman works in marketing and communications for manufacturing, workforce development, education and public-sector clients, not cybersecurity. The subject, audience and problems differ from security-career guidance; the shared trait is a personal-narrative teaching style.
Kyser Clark’s posts suggest a fit for cybersecurity career and professional-development campaigns, especially content about certifications, hands-on skills, burnout, and military-to-civilian career choices.
Read more
Before proposing a co-branded series, request recent platform audience demographics and performance for comparable career-focused content. If the campaign needs information about viewers’ cybersecurity roles or seniority, ask for audience survey results or another documented source.
Kyser Clark's posts contain no sponsorship policy, rate card, media kit, or business inquiry route.
Read more
Across five posts spanning August to October 2026, the only format described is their podcast, The Hacker's Cache, and LinkedIn posts promoting episodes.
The podcast features guest appearances, including one episode with returning guest and security researcher Richie V., but the posts describe these as conversations between practitioners, not paid placements or formats offered to outside brands.
The posts disclose no brand partnership, sponsored episode, or commercial integration.
A cybersecurity company seeking a co-branded content series on certifications and career growth should ask directly whether Clark offers that arrangement.
A cybersecurity company assessing Kyser Clark for a thought-leadership partnership built around a co-branded content series on certifications and career growth: This is a strong fit.
Read more
The company's subject and their stated position line up without forcing a message: Clark has publicly argued that certifications helped with a military-to-civilian cyber transition and made them more capable, but more credentials do not automatically produce better pay, better opportunities, or a healthier career.
Hands-on, role-specific experience, performance in a current role, and avoiding burnout matter more.
A brand selling training or certification cannot usually say that convincingly on its own; a practitioner with 19 certifications can.
The format also matches.
The Hacker's Cache is the recurring vehicle, and the topics are consistent and repeated rather than one-off: which certifications matter for which roles, what to do after passing, non-degree and non-OSCP entry routes, public-sector pay versus private-sector stability, mentoring, and burnout.
The guest episode with a security researcher who built a path without a degree or OSCP shows Clark can carry a partner-relevant interview, not just solo commentary, giving the series room to feature the brand's own subject-matter people.
Distribution is already in place: an established podcast plus LinkedIn posts announcing each episode.
The commercial limits are straightforward: no sponsorship policy, rate card, media kit, or inquiry route appears, so ask directly before building a schedule around assumed terms.
Expect Clark to decline a script that reduces the message to 'stack more certifications.' Audience composition and episode performance are also unestablished; request platform data before making reach promises.
Timing deserves a check: Clark was publicly open to work during this period, with working arrangements described as Columbus, Ohio area or remote, with no relocation.
Overall: proceed with a nuanced message, a podcast-led format, and commercial terms confirmed first.
When to choose a specialist
A cybersecurity product vendor wants a twelve-week performance campaign: short vertical product-demo videos, brand-written scripts, a fixed posting cadence, and a contracted guarantee of lead volume and reach.
Read more
Treat this as a poor fit based on the available posts.
They show longform, argument-driven work: podcast episodes about career decisions, guest conversations on hiring and skill proof, and LinkedIn posts that introduce an episode and frame a position.
None of the five posts shows Clark producing short-form demo content, product walkthroughs, or scripted paid placements.
The message would also collide with their position.
A demo-led campaign asking for aggressive credential-stacking claims runs against their argument that more certifications do not automatically fix a career.
The strongest content here is the counterpoint, not the slogans; a script that removes the nuance removes the reason a brand would want this creator.
Reach and lead guarantees are unsupported: the posts include no audience composition, episode performance data, or sponsorship terms.
Request platform data before making promises about conversion volume.
Cadence and turnaround carry timing risk too: Clark was publicly job seeking with stated location constraints during the same period, which could make a rigid production schedule harder to hold.
A brand whose campaign depends on rapid scripted response, product demo footage, and contracted performance numbers should look elsewhere or rework the campaign.
A worked campaign example
Worked campaign angle — 'Certification Plus Proof,' a four-episode co-branded series inside The Hacker's Cache, plus matching LinkedIn posts from Clark's account.
The brand supplies subject-matter experts, current role-to-certification mapping data, and free lab or skills-assessment access; Clark hosts and edits in the existing podcast format.
Suggested run of show.
Episode one: 'What my 19 certifications did and didn't do.' The host walks through the military-to-civilian transition, where credentials genuinely opened doors, and when chasing the next badge stopped paying off.
Episode two: 'Which certification for which job.' A brand expert joins to map credentials to specific roles, while the host presses on the gap between passing an exam and doing the role's actual work.
Episode three: 'Proof of skill beyond the certificate.' A guest like the associate security researcher already featured builds the case for project portfolios and labs, covering how candidates get past an HR screen without a degree or OSCP.
Episode four: 'Staying in the field without burning out.' Practical guidance on workload, study pace, and what to do in the months after passing, drawn from the host's account of treating every spare hour as career progress.
One call to action per episode, pointing to a free lab or skills self-assessment rather than an exam bundle, so the offer matches the argument.
Brand voice rules: credentials are framed as one part of a career plan, never as a career fix; the host's critical position stays intact; the brand reviews factual claims about its own products only.
Distribution: podcast feed plus one LinkedIn post per episode written in Clark's usual form — a position, the episode's questions, and a link.
Two short clips per episode cut from the conversation, not scripted separately.
Run the first episode as a pilot before committing to the remaining three, and agree in advance on message boundaries, episode cadence, and who owns the audio.
Measure episode completions, clicks through to the free lab or assessment, and qualified sign-ups from the series.
Before committing, confirm the commercial terms and inquiry route, recent episode and account performance for comparable career-focused episodes, and Clark's availability given the stated job search.
If the brand needs retention or conversion benchmarks to approve the pilot, request platform data first and treat the pilot as the test rather than the guarantee.
Choose Raymond Akpan when the partnership needs scheduled, live teaching rather than a podcast.
Read more
The posts advertise a free webinar hosted in a cybersecurity ecosystem lead role, aimed at students, career switchers, recent graduates, and IT professionals.
They present SOC and security operations, penetration testing, governance, risk and compliance, and cloud security as parallel entry paths.
If the co-branded series needs to give GRC and cloud equal billing with the certification story, or the brand wants to register people for a live session it can co-host, Akpan already runs that format and frames the learning-to-job-ready gap as the subject.
The brand gives up the tested longform vehicle and credential critique that make Kyser Clark worth a training partnership.
Clark has a recurring show, a stated argument about what certifications did and did not do for a military-to-civilian transition, and a guest interview on entering security without a degree or OSCP.
Raymond Akpan's posts here are two announcements of the same webinar, published four days apart, so they show a host promoting one event rather than a body of published reasoning a co-branded series could build on.
Choosing this alternative buys an event format and breadth across security domains, but gives up documented longform commentary and the specific 19-certification practitioner voice the campaign was built around.
Choose Paola Masman when the partnership is about workforce and industry marketing rather than cybersecurity careers.
Read more
The posts show a nine-year agency serving manufacturing, workforce development, education, economic development, and public-sector clients, and an owner who attends advanced-manufacturing events and speaks about getting more people to see manufacturing as a career path. If the certification-and-career-growth series is one piece of a larger workforce campaign, or the brand needs an agency to handle communications, sales support, and talent-recruitment messaging around it, Masman is a better match than a creator who only makes cyber content.
The posts contain no cybersecurity subject matter: nothing about certifications, security roles, exam paths, or security skills.
Choosing Paola Masman means buying agency capability and manufacturing and workforce relationships, not a practitioner audience for a cyber training message.
The credential argument, security-domain expertise, and podcast vehicle would all have to come from someone else, so this alternative works only if the campaign shifts away from cybersecurity hiring and toward industry awareness.
Choose Huzaifah S. when the partnership shifts from career-strategy thought leadership to hands-on practitioner teaching.
Read more
The posts offer a repeatable authorization-testing methodology — map sensitive object types, do not trust UUIDs or hashed identifiers, test update, delete, export, share and role changes, check privilege boundaries across users and organizations, and watch batch and mass-export endpoints — and a beginner list of free tools, with the argument that nobody needs a paid course to start. A vendor selling labs, tooling, or application-security training can attach a product directly to either post; the second also points to free practice platforms that a lab offer can sit beside.
The posts show skills instruction and motivation, not a career narrative or a running show.
There is no podcast, interview, credential advice, or guest format, so the proposed co-branded series on certifications and career growth would still need a different host for the career question.
The tooling post speaks to absolute beginners who are told not to spend money yet, making them harder to convert on exam bundles than on free labs.
They are also at a different point in the buyer's funnel from working professionals weighing which certification to take next.
Kyser Clark's five full LinkedIn posts cover certification advice, a military-to-civilian pay tradeoff, an open-to-work post, DEF CON networking, and a guest interview.
This profile includes overview, ideas, relationships, discovery, and fit sections.
Episode content is described as the posts report it; no episode transcripts, audience metrics, sponsorship terms, or publication dates are published here.